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Please bring back Flight Details tab


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Having played around today with 3.9 (iOS), I do miss the Flight Details tab for 1-click access.

I use it quite a lot not just for W&B but also to set aircraft, set takeoff time, view flight time (on iPhone, though this is now on main map like on iPad so not an issue), and set fuel. I guess this is more important when planning than in flight.
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On the contrary, if somebody's desire is to set route parameters like takeoff time, speed etc, then the Route menu is an obvious first choice if someone doesn't know about the Flight Details tab.

Yes, a huge percentage of our user base have‌/had no idea about the existence of the Flight Details tab. Nobody wishes this weren't the case more than us. Work a day on the customer support phone in our office and you quickly get a very specific insight into the capabilities of the average SkyDemon user, and our every effort (daily) goes into making life easier for those users.‌
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Tim Dawson - 12/19/2017 4:06:28 PM
On the contrary, if somebody's desire is to set route parameters like takeoff time, speed etc, then the Route menu is an obvious first choice if someone doesn't know about the Flight Details tab.

Yes, a huge percentage of our user base have‌/had no idea about the existence of the Flight Details tab. Nobody wishes this weren't the case more than us. Work a day on the customer support phone in our office and you quickly get a very specific insight into the capabilities of the average SkyDemon user, and our every effort (daily) goes into making life easier for those users.‌

By helping one set of users, and disarming another by removing a well used shortcut!

‌‌This may not be an issue for some pilots who perhaps fly once a week, but some of us fly for a living on a daily basis and every effort goes into streamlining our operation, whether its the pre-flight planning, enroute flight management or post-flight debriefing. 

‌The process is less efficient now and workflow is broken up (I just learned GAR filing has moved too). Shortcuts are very important to us, especially when we use them a lot throughout the day (we may have to plan multiple flights per day, using different aircraft, using different payloads & different fuel amounts) - multiply that for a big company with lots of users.

‌The Flight Details tab was like a "Go To" for the entire setup of a flight. It even had a big green button, easier to use with big fingers than the top menu, also its placement on the screen meant you didn't have to reach too far with your right thumb/finger, now you definitely have to lift your hand to reach the menu. As some of the original Flight Details elements are split, it means more touch actions per flight (drilling up/down through Route menu, back/forth Warnings tab).

‌These workflow issues need to be addressed, like the "Close" button on the W&B screen needs to change to a "Back" button to return you to Flight Details and not kick you out to the map screen (assuming this is just a bug and not intentional).

To clarify, ‌I think the Skydemon product is great. I love the new "route auto save to cloud" feature, though thats been on my wishlist for a longtime (I wish it could have been extended to aircraft and user waypoints). In my opinion, the Flight Details change was a knee jerk reaction and could have been better implemented, considering Skydemon's history with excellent design choices in the past.
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Tim Dawson - 12/19/2017 4:06:28 PM
Work a day on the customer support phone in our office and you quickly get a very specific insight into the capabilities of the average SkyDemon user, and our every effort (daily) goes into making life easier for those users.‌

If I work a day on the customer support, I will interact with a minority of users, unless every single user pings you on a regular basis, something I do not really believe. The silent majority was perfectly fine with the previous approach. To make life easier for some users, you broke a well designed workflow into inconsistent pieces. If something is not understood by some, it needs a better explanation to enable the so-called "average user", not a giant step back which impacts all others. 

SD UI and menus structure is massively complex already, so removing one of the most valuable (and logical) tab won't make the product easier.

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Tim Dawson - 12/18/2017 10:49:33 AM
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